From acpquinn@middlebury.edu Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:43:57 -0500
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:43:57 -0500
From: acpquinn@middlebury.edu acpquinn@middlebury.edu
Subject: [Meimc-publication] the maine commons editorial policy (draft)
hey all --
i am crossposting this to the discussion list because i know there are
people on the discussion list who might eventually want to submit articles
to the paper.
this editorial policy is in draft mode -- meaning that people are welcome
to hack it to pieces, disagree with it, ask me to add new things to cover
new potential issues, etc.
the policy only applies to the print publication; if the tech group wishes
to make a similar policy on web submissions, that will be separate.
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First of all, let me make it clear that this policy applies to all
submissions. We are in place now to have a regularly-printed paper, which
will come out close to the middle of each month. this means that deadlines
must be stuck to, and they must be stuck to by all members, core or
volunteer, founding or newly-converted, or things will get messy.
We are aiming to get the paper out on the 15th of each month. the printer
needs the paper a couple of days before the print date for processing, and
i prefer to have it to them before they need it in case there are any
problems with the file that they can't fix. i need about a week to put
together the paper, so the deadline is approximately a week and a half
before the print date. for example, next month the paper will come out on
the 14th (as the 15th falls on a saturday), and i would like to deliver the
file to the printer by the 10th or 11th to offer them ample processing
time. this means that the absolute deadline would be monday, the 3rd of
december for next month's submissions. I will work out a chart of deadlines
for the next several months later.
people who feel that printing a paper a week and a half after the news has
come out is in some way wrong or bad should realize that the print
publication is monthly, and thus should not be used for things that will
become extremely dated. that is what the web is for -- up-to-the-minute
breaking news.
Now some technical stuff. Some of this was printed in the publication under
the mission statement.
Submissions for The Maine Commons can come in the form of articles, opinion
pieces, letters to the editor, poetry, cartoons, and photographs.
photographs and cartoons should be scanned at 180 dpi or higher, if
possible. color photographs should be checked to make sure they look good
in grayscale, because that's what we print in. slides, negatives and
undeveloped film will not be accepted. articles and opinion pieces should
be no more than 1400 words; letters to the editor no longer than 100. all
text should be submitted as computer files, or crisply-printed or typed
text (must be recognizable by OCR programs). the editors reserve the right
to edit pieces down if they are too long. submission does not guarantee
publication. current events, non-breaking news, and issues relevant to
maine will be given priority. submissions sent in on time will also be
given priority -- the later the submission, the less likely we will be to
have space to include it.
all submissions should be made to editor@maineindymedia.org or mailed to
Maine IMC, PO Box 1444, Waterville, ME 04903
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ok, i have to run to work. please critique this and submit ideas to be
added or subtracted.
peace,
alasdair
From acpquinn@middlebury.edu Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:08:54 -0500
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:08:54 -0500
From: acpquinn@middlebury.edu acpquinn@middlebury.edu
Subject: [Meimc-publication] Re: typo
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At 03:53 PM 12/3/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey - looks like a major typo has crept into the email. When is the
>deadline? I assume it's not Dec 1, 2002!
>
>
>
> acpquinn@middlebury.edu wrote:
>hey all ...
>
>due to less content than expected, we are postponing this issue of the
>maine commons until january. i will want to start work on the january (or
>jan-feb) issue of the paper as soon as i get back from spending the
>holidays in vermont with my family. i will be getting back shortly after xmas.
>
>the changed deadlines are as follows: all content should be sent to
>editor@maineindymedia.org by tuesday, dec. 1, 2002. this will give me
hah! i meant _jan_ 1, 2002. sorry. it's definitely not being postponed that
long ;>
peace,
alasdair
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From acpquinn@middlebury.edu Wed, 05 Dec 2001 19:01:27 -0500
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 19:01:27 -0500
From: acpquinn@middlebury.edu acpquinn@middlebury.edu
Subject: [Meimc-publication] ad offer and insert question
hey all --
i need some input regarding a pair of offers the maine commons has had in
the past week.
the first is from david kubiak, of Big Medicine, the group that threw the
New Chautauqua. David's group and ours have cooperated on many things --
from sharing of audio and video coverage to sharing a table at Common
Ground Fair. David would like to pay the difference between a 16-page paper
and a 20-page paper so that we can have an inserted 4-page "countercoup
press" or something to that effect. the content would be up to david, but i
would be designing the paper. i am not sure when this would start, but i
would like to have a discussion about it on here well before the next issue
so that i can give david a definitive answer.
i do not know how many of these per year david is interested in, but he's
willing to pay the difference on whatever number it is. before i contact
him again i want to get some reactions to the concept.
the second is from fritz weidner, of weidner ethical investing, who has
offered us $150 for an ad in the paper. I know we have not decided on our
ad policy, and currently are leaning away from ads at all, but this could
bring in much needed revenue. when we left it last, we had decided that if
we were going to accept ads at all, it would be from businesses of our
choosing. fritz' business is basically to help people invest in companies
that have ethical business practices, no human rights violations, etc. the
website is www.weidnerinvest.com.
i do not know if this is going to be a one-time ad or a repeating ad, but i
wanted to find out if people are amenable to it before i gave him an
answer. keep in mind that the amount he considers "fair" for this ad is
still $50 more than any size ad we were prepared to offer (2.5x2.5, 2.5x5, 5x5)
please respond with thoughts on this as soon as possible.
peace,
alasdair
editor, maine commons
From acpquinn@middlebury.edu Wed, 05 Dec 2001 21:39:32 -0500
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 21:39:32 -0500
From: acpquinn@middlebury.edu acpquinn@middlebury.edu
Subject: [Meimc-publication] ad offer and insert question
hey all --
gearry sent this one to me personally, but i'm sending the reply to the
list. i don't know whether this was on purpose or inadvertent, but i think
the discussion needs to stay on the publication list so more people can be
involved. some clarification points follow:
At 08:23 PM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
> David would like to pay the difference between a 16-page paper
> > and a 20-page paper so that we can have an inserted 4-page "countercoup
> > press" or something to that effect. the content would be up to david, but i
> > would be designing the paper.
>I have no problem with ME-IMC members offering any form of technical
>support for people who want to do publications. In fact I see that as
>our purpose. I think it would be great if you help design and produce
>this project and IMC gets some credit for this assistance. I am not
>sure how I feel about distributing this as a part of the commons. The
>major problem as I see it is this. We want the commons to function as a
>voice of the people, but we obviously need to make editorial decisions
>about what makes it into an issue. If we give a group the option of
>distibuting there own mini-publication inside of the commons I believe
>we have to offer that to all groups. At some point it is going to
>become very difficult if we have lots of groups who want there own
>sub-sections in the commons. Then the commons basically becomes a folio
>to hold all of these mini-publications. I would rather see the commons
>remain its own paper that is the voice of the people, with no factions
>holding any special representation within the paper, which is what a
>subsection would be. This might seem like nit-picking, but I would not
>oppose to other publications using the ME-IMC distribution network, I
>just would not want the publications stuffed inside of the commons. Do
>other people see what I mean and where I am coming from?
understood. i certainly don't want to have the maine commons used simply as
a vehicle for the highest bidder to push their views. likewise, i don't
want to have big medicine get an insert and crowd out anyone else who might
be interested. Peace Action Maine has shown some interest (though I have
not heard back from them recently). I propose we create some kind of policy
-- not to have big medicine, who is affiliated with us through the New
Chautauqua, get their newsletter printed with our paper in every issue --
but to allow other non-profit groups (at our discretion) the option of a
one-time ad/content insert. would it be more tasteful if we allowed david
kubiak's group to have an insert in the next (or another upcoming) issue
once? and then be open to this as a fundraising method for other groups in
future issues?
> > the second is from fritz weidner, of weidner ethical investing, who has
> > offered us $150 for an ad in the paper.
>I have not come to a conclusion about ads yet. I think that if we have
>someone in charge of handling ads who does nothing else (expcept maybe
>tech) than maybe we can have eds without compromising editorial policy.
>For instance, if I were to take on handling ads I would only want to
>take ad orders and work on tech stuff. I would not want to know what is
>going to be in any issue of the paper until it was printed and I would
>not write for the paper. I would simply take ad orders and make sure
>that alisdair puts them in the layout. There is also a specific way I
>think ads should be placed. I think whoever is handling ads should let
>the layout person know the number and sizes of ads as they are recieved,
>and the layout should be made with all of the articles before any ads
>are placed. This prevents a conscious or subconscious placement of an
>ad next to specific articles which may relate to that ad, which would
>imply editorial comprimise even if it were not really the case. I think
>this is something we need to really talk out and decide on soon before
>we are pressured into deciding too quickly.
agreed -- if we decide that ads are a priority in our paper, we should have
someone who is specifically responsible for them. currently, no real
decision has been made about ads, so no such position has been formed.
i have just been contacted by fritz, owner of weidner ethical investing,
who retracts his offer for the ad for that company, and extends an offer
for an ad for his organization Openwords.com, an open free speech directory
website. the difference is that weidner investing is both a for-profit
business and a touchy issue for many involved with indymedia (i.e. is
ethical investing "anti-corporate" because it means investing in good
businesses, or "pro-corporate" because it perpetuates the investment
structure that keeps all corporations alive?). i think we had agreed that
ads from select non-profit businesses would be alright. as far as layout
goes, i think, until we get more ads, i can handle responsibly placing this
one. although, what part of our paper doesn't deal with issues of free
speech? ;>
peace,
alasdair
From acpquinn@middlebury.edu Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:36:12 -0500
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:36:12 -0500
From: acpquinn@middlebury.edu acpquinn@middlebury.edu
Subject: [Meimc-publication] Re: [MeIMC-discuss] Ads, Inserts, etc.
i had tried to keep these issues (just the ad/inserts) on the publication
list, as they are publication policy and not everyone needs to hear/talk
about them -- and indeed, a few on the discuss list have asked not to. for
the sake of not confusing folks, i'm bringing these back to the publication
list for further discussion. if folks on the discuss list want to talk
about them, they should join the publication list
At 09:30 AM 12/6/01 -0500, you wrote:
>2) Ads
> -for what it is worth, I think can, should, and must accept ads - IF
> they are handled correctly
> -I like what Alasdair said about separating ad administration form
> editorial administration
> -with a clear policy based, on principle, could we not send a message
> of support to socially responsible businesses?
> -Is not the spirit of Maine Commons to be a common gathering place for
> the exercise of free speech, the sharing of ideas, and the building of
> bridges to a sustainable future?
amen. now we need a clear policy. the big issue upon which all other issues
will be built is: non-profit only, or also socially responsible for-profit
businesses?
>3) Inserts
> -I have supported the concept of inserts on this listserv recently
> -I still support it
> -I do not see the problem with setting a clear policy on inserts and
> then letting as many groups as want to publish inserts which do not
> conflict with our policies and principles
> -of course, there are reasonable limits...for example, if 10 or more
> groups wanted to do a 4 page insert we would end up with at least a 50
> page paper. This would mean more space in distribution vehicles and more
> space in distribution locations. Stores have limited shelf/rack
> space. But then, would we simply need to design, buy, and place a bunch
> of cool racks/boxes like the Casco Bay Weekly, Portland Phoenix,
> etc.? Would it be all black with a Maine Commons/Maine Indymedia logos
> and Beehive Collective artwork?
> -With several inserts in each issue the Maine Commons would literally
> become the Maine media commons for all of us who are in common cause but
> with different perspectives, different approaches, and different
> ways/styles of expressing themselves.
> -I think multiple-inserts would make for a very colorful, diverse,
> unique and radical publication - not that the Maine Commons is not rad already.
ok ... 2 problems with this plan i see immediately. first of all, we cannot
logistically include more than one insert, either 2 or 4 pages, in a
publication at one time. more than one insert, and we have inserts within
inserts, which would split the content of one insert in half in favor of
another one.
the other problem i see is that we cannot afford to make this publication
simply a vehicle for other groups' publications. we can easily make it a
vehicle for their articles, but i see a problem if/when we have more pages
dedicated to inserts than we have dedicated to our own content.
as far as designing racks for our publication, that'd be something to deal
with if/when the publication becomes more profitable. also, we'd have to
find places for the racks where they would be watched, or at least not stolen
hillary will be writing a more well-thought-out proposal for policy on
inserts when she gets out of the shower ;>
peace,
alasdair
From sterren@brandeis.edu Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:01:20 -0500
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:01:20 -0500
From: sterren sterren@brandeis.edu
Subject: [Meimc-publication] Re: [MeIMC-discuss] Ads, Inserts, etc.
>3) Inserts
> -I have supported the concept of inserts on this listserv recently
> -I still support it
> -I do not see the problem with setting a clear policy on inserts and
> then letting as many groups as want to publish inserts which do not
> conflict with our policies and principles
> -of course, there are reasonable limits...for example, if 10 or more
> groups wanted to do a 4 page insert we would end up with at least a 50
> page paper. This would mean more space in distribution vehicles and more
> space in distribution locations. Stores have limited shelf/rack
> space. But then, would we simply need to design, buy, and place a bunch
> of cool racks/boxes like the Casco Bay Weekly, Portland Phoenix,
> etc.? Would it be all black with a Maine Commons/Maine Indymedia logos
> and Beehive Collective artwork?
> -With several inserts in each issue the Maine Commons would literally
> become the Maine media commons for all of us who are in common cause but
> with different perspectives, different approaches, and different
> ways/styles of expressing themselves.
> -I think multiple-inserts would make for a very colorful, diverse,
> unique and radical publication - not that the Maine Commons is not rad already.
My thoughts on inserts...
I think it would get to be a logistical problem if we had more than one
insert per paper. Possible policy: Maybe, as a way to just get the initial
word out about groups, we could have one insert per issue at some agreed
upon sliding scale cost (we can't technically charge for anything as a
nonprofit, all must be suggested donations.) One group could not have an
insert more than once a year. Inserts would be limited to something like 4
pages. We would accept group inserts on a first-come first-serve basis from
ANY group, as long as it fell into the following categories:
A nonprofit group.
Working on Maine issues. (and based in Maine with some real history? I'm
just wondering how to deal with "astroturf" grassroots groups created by
corporations for issues like trying to defeat universal health care)
No political groups.
No messages of hate or discrimination toward any group.
No religious messages.
So that's just an idea - feel free to hack at it or reject it
outright....but it seems like on the way to figuring out a fair, feasable
insert policy.
be well,
hillary
From gearry@gwi.net Thu, 06 Dec 2001 18:09:43 -0500
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 18:09:43 -0500
From: Gearry Judkins gearry@gwi.net
Subject: [Fwd: [Meimc-publication] Re: [MeIMC-discuss] Ads, Inserts, etc.]
Gearry Judkins wrote:
>
> > amen. now we need a clear policy. the big issue upon which all other issues
> > will be built is: non-profit only, or also socially responsible for-profit
> > businesses?
> I think it needs to be either non-profit only or open to any business.
> I think businesses will self select. I doubt Irving would want to buy
> an ad. I look at it this way; any business with whom we disagree on
> issues will be funding the distribution of our ideas in order to get
> business, in effect shooting themselves in the foot. As long as the
> person in charge of ads has some discretion to reject ads based on
> content I think we should take any ad from any business.
>
> > ok ... 2 problems with this plan i see immediately. first of all, we cannot
> > logistically include more than one insert, either 2 or 4 pages, in a
> > publication at one time. more than one insert, and we have inserts within
> > inserts, which would split the content of one insert in half in favor of
> > another one.
> This seems to be mostly an issue with the order of folding in
> production. I know that the kennebec journal produces other papers that
> are sectional (like any daily). There might be issues with page counts
> and such, but it basically seems like a technical problem that probably
> has a technical solution.
>
> > as far as designing racks for our publication, that'd be something to deal
> > with if/when the publication becomes more profitable. also, we'd have to
> > find places for the racks where they would be watched, or at least not stolen
> >
> Two comments:
> 1)I don't think you really meant "profitable" because profit is not
> really our motive.
> 2)I realize it is a long way before we are financially stable enough to
> produce and distribute racks, but I still like to dream. :)
>
> Gearry
> --
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> science and spirituality."
> Sri Jawaharlal Nehru
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From noreastah@acadia.net Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:39:09 -0500
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:39:09 -0500
From: noreastah noreastah@acadia.net
Subject: [Meimc-publication] Is This About Oil Again? - Anyone want to help research an article?
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Anyone interested in helping research an article on Afghanistan and oil =
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11th regarding Afghanistan)?=20
The more I look into this subject the weirder and more eerie it gets. I =
could use help researching, proof-reading, etc if anyone is interesting.
Below are a few references I've found so far. I'd like to be able to put =
together a referenced article that ties some of these things together =
for the Commons and/or any other Indymedia publications (but with =
priority given to the Commons).
Send me an email if you are interested.
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The BBC's George Arney says the US had made plans for a major assault on =
Afghanistan before the WTC attacks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1550000/audio/_1550366_afghan01_arney.ram =
(real audio format)
US 'planned attack on Taleban'
Tuesday, 18 September, 2001, 11:27 GMT 12:27 UK=20
A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning =
military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last =
week's attacks. Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was =
told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action =
against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.=20
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1550000/1550366.=
stm
The Deadly Pipeline War
George W. Bush justifies his bombing of Afghanistan as a war against =
terror. A twin motive, however, is to make Afghanistan safe for United =
States oil interests.=20
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1208-04.htm
The Great Gas Game
"Until Sept. 11, much of the US diplomacy in Central Asia was focused on =
how to build a pipeline from the Caspian that couldn't be controlled by =
either Russia or Iran. Given the geography, and Russia's influence in =
various post-Soviet states, that's difficult."
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1025/p8s1-comv.html (Christain Science =
Monitor article)
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India joins anti-Taliban coalition - 15 March 2001 (Notice the date when =
an anti-Taliban coalition began forming)
India is believed to have joined Russia, the USA and Iran in a concerted =
front against Afghanistan's Taliban regime.=20
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FYI: Jane's is well known for publishing articles on military strategy =
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weirder and=20
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http://www.commo=
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that=20
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and=20
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difficult."
India joins =
anti-Taliban coalition - 15 March 2001 (Notice the date when an =
anti-Taliban coalition began forming)
India is believed to have =
joined=20
Russia, the USA and Iran in a concerted front against Afghanistan's =
Taliban=20
regime.
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/ne=
ws/jir/jir010315_1_n.shtml
FYI: Jane's is well known for publishing =
articles on=20
military strategy and things of that nature.
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From gearry@gwi.net Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:19:55 -0500
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:19:55 -0500
From: gearry@gwi.net gearry@gwi.net
Subject: [Meimc-publication] School
I got approval today to distribute copies of the Maine Commons in the High School library where I work. I will keep an e=
ye out to see if students are reading it.
gearry
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From slepage@server.eddmaine.org Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:20:31 -0500
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:20:31 -0500
From: Suzanne LePage slepage@server.eddmaine.org
Subject: [Meimc-publication] School
Distributing at the high school reminded me of what happened when Jonathan
brought a stack to the UMAINE - Springvale campus. He asked a secretary if
he could leave a stack and where to do so. She said to leave one so that
the head honcho could look it over first. So he did.
He went back the next day. As he entered, the woman said "Uh-oh." Jonathan
asked if Mr. Big Guy had looked it over and he could now leave some. She
said he was out - went to the bathroom. Jonathan said he'd wait. She told
him to go into an adjoining room and help himself to coffee. He did - there
was only 1/4 cup left. He returned and she quickly exclaimed, "He said no."
What the hell is going on here?
Suzanne
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From kubiak@nancho.net Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:36:48 -0500
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:36:48 -0500
From: kubiak@nancho.net kubiak@nancho.net
Subject: [Meimc-publication] Maine Commons Insert?
Dear holidazed all,
A couple weeks ago following up on Ed Democracy's suggestion for an
inclusion-rich Commons format, I wrote to Alasdar and Hillary asking
about the possibility of a trial run for a 4-page insert tentatively called
the "New Chautauqua Countercoup Times" that would devote a page
each to:
a) the movie\alternative news network project we are trying to launch;
b) current evidence of the corporate coup d'etat in Maine and beyond;
c) the hows and history of the corporate takeover (here and elsewhere);
d) alternative visions and post-corporate remedies (eg, MOFGA ag
models, Portland Time Dollars, Consensual Democracy, corporate
personhood revocation, etc.)
It would include some self-generated populist content, new work from
chautauqua participants and the Web, comics, etc; have a distinct
"look" to set it off from the MC mother ship; and perhaps play a militant
message-testing cousin to the more accessible progressive slant of the
Commons as a whole. We would of course pay for all the extra paper,
printing and layout costs and generally strive to be a stand up, value-
adding feature for the paper.
A & H were encouraging up to this point, but as the reality of the
proposition accumulated and I asked for a 3-issue trial run for the
experiment, they rightly observed we need some consensus on this
request and I thus throw it out to thee all for comment and permission.
Perhaps the main issue is "may we 'monopolize' the insert space for 3
issues running," since other groups will doubtless also like to use the
space at some time down the line. So I guess our plea is for your
permission to "pioneer" the concept and (if you are all agreeable to its
general form and function) to develop an association with MC for a few
issues that would allow us to migrate a layer or two deeper whenever
other groups coveted the drama or convenience of the sexy centerfold.
Such be our proposal - we humbly await your disposal...
for the wild,
david k-
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